yes i get that but we are not making it explored in the settings. so it shouldbt be explored but it is.

Send me your latest map script, let me test on my own.

okay this is it here, if we can make it work on 1.5 and 1.6 /currently works on 1.5 only/ not 1.6

This is how the game looked as soon as I started a game with the map script. The map is not visible except for the three villagers.

I had four players in FFA mode. As far as I understand it, if I don't set "Reveal Map", I only see what my units see.

Hello, the problem is seeing your villager+ allied villager. please make your settings 4v4 and check if you see your allies villagers at start

Correct me if I'm wrong but this thread started with you asking how to add allied vision to a map. Why are you complaining that you can see your alliy's units when it's exactly the intended effect?

We must be having some problem with the terminology of the game:

• Allied vision is seign your ally's units from the start of the game. This feature originally came with the cartography technology in the market and later depended only on building a market. The current balance nowadays is having it from the start.
• Explored map is seign the whole map from the start of the game. It is covered in fog of war but you can locate resorces and choke points. It is the default setting in Black Forest maps to help players locate the path to the enemies they should wall.

hello again and thanks for your help but I have been asking for the same thing since start of thread which is to add Allied vision... In your screenshot it only shows your vision and not your allies vision so that means it doesnt work and i asked for allied vision to be added. as stated earlier please try doing a 4v4 and see if u are able to see your allies vision and NOT all explored map... just dark map and be able to see allies vills - scouted area/ i never complained about seeing allies units, i complained about seeing allies units + map is full explored... i dont want full explored map from start, I only want to see my allies vision.

Good, for a moment I thought we were going in circles.
Here is what I see in a 4v4, 12 villagers for the four players and what they see.